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lastfirst
05-19-2012, 01:14 AM
I have just recently been put into the Support group of ESA Contribution based and I got a letter saying that they had paid 152 into my account and to get in touch with them if I wanted to know more about this payment but I didn't, so looked at my bank statement tonight and it said they had paid me 135 instead and have been paying me 135 each week since being put into the support group? I dont understand that as I thought the rates were 105 per week??? I am confused now and I have to wait till next week to find out why unless anyone might know?

lastfirst
05-19-2012, 02:18 AM
Also I dont receive any other benefits like DLA etc? and its a single person claim too.

Stepheninleeds
05-19-2012, 09:19 AM
Is this an adjustment? SOmeone will explain as it all confuses me.

gabopentin
05-19-2012, 11:48 AM
this may help you work out what they are doing. Don't forget to add any premiums and subtract any income. http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/benefitrates2012.pdf

lastfirst
05-19-2012, 01:35 PM
Very confused? Just got another bank statement today and over the last 4 weeks there have been two payments into my account 204 and then two weeks later 210?

gabopentin, thanks for the link but it didn't work?

lastfirst
05-19-2012, 02:18 PM
Basically, I was working then fell ill in Nov 2011 and my claim started 28/11/2011. I made a claim for ESA in Nov 2011 and since then these have been my payments

3rd Feb 327.86 DWP EESA
3rd Feb 327.86 DWP EESA
20th Feb 135 DWP EESA
6th March 135 DWP EESA
19th March 135 DWP EESA
2nd April 135 DWP EESA
5th April 152 DWP EESA
16th April 204 DWP EESA
30th April 252 DWP EESA
14th may 210.10 DWP EESA

I was put into the support group in 31/03/2012.

I also got a letter from the job centre saying

claim start date 28/11/2012

Claim Termination date N/A
At a weekly rate of 105.95

Second Claim Start Date N/A
Second Claim Termination Date N/A
At a weekly rate of N/A

PAID UP TO: 30/04/2012

Anyone any ideas whats going on?

gabopentin
05-19-2012, 02:37 PM
None of these amounts actually work out using the rates published by DWP. Basic rates assuming a single claim = over 25 71.00. Plus the premium severe disability 58.20. Plus Support premium 34.05. The letter should tell you what premiums you are getting. The amounts being paid are also fortnightly with the Feb payment including backdating.

lastfirst
05-19-2012, 02:40 PM
Thanks, since I was put into the support group I havent had any letters about any premiums? Even if I was getting a premium would those figures actually work out?

Ive added a little more info on my last post.

davewhit
05-19-2012, 02:48 PM
what you need to look at is what IB you got and allowances with it as thats the starting point for working out your esa

lastfirst
05-19-2012, 02:55 PM
I did use to get Incapacity Benefit 1 year and a half ago.

I also got a letter on 1/05/2012

Saying

WE ARE WRITING TO TELL YOU THAT THE CONTRIBUTION ELEMENT OF YOUR EMPLOYMENT AND SUPPORT ALLOWANCE CAN COUNT AS TAXABLE INCOME.

For the period up to 05/04/2012 in the 2011 - 2012 tax year we paid a total allowance of xxxx or which xxx was taxable. This is added to any earns this tax year.

etc.....

gabopentin
05-19-2012, 03:13 PM
I would suggest a request to ESA asking them to explain how your payments are made up. They have to include an explanation as to what premiums etc you are getting. They are not allowed to tell you what you can claim for but have to tell you if asked. My first assumption would be is that they are paying you the couple basic payment as a means of reducing the amount they pay you. Or that they have messed up inputing your claim to the computer. remember GIGO, Garbage In. Garbage Out. Computer IQ = zero. Operator IQ debatable in DWP. The tax gobbledegook means nothing unless your are earning.

lastfirst
05-19-2012, 03:21 PM
Yes, I am going to call them on Monday thats for sure. Just I have to have proof of my benefits for somewhere and I have said I am on ESA and will provide my bank statements as proof of that and that Im just worried that whoever looks at that will look at the ESA rates, see my bank statement showing all the ESA payments into my account and wonder what on earth is going on?

Stig
05-19-2012, 08:13 PM
I have stated on several occaisions do not believe i word put out by the DWP or any other .Gov.UK site as they will simply tell you what you want to hear and when things actually do changeover it's a different story even though now and then things could unfold in your favour

lastfirst
06-12-2012, 05:51 PM
I was just wondering, where it says on the letter from ESA


is due to come up for review on the 5/9/12

Does that mean I will be sent a questionnaire before that date? from that date? does that mean someone will just review it in the office and then decide whether to send me for a medical or a questionnaire before or on that date etc?

davewhit
06-12-2012, 06:40 PM
have you a private pension even a small one that would explain everything

lastfirst
06-12-2012, 07:42 PM
Nope, no pension that I know of, I am only 34.

davewhit
06-13-2012, 12:34 PM
Nope, no pension that I know of, I am only 34.

my pensions paid out at 30 and I know many younger ..... so dont think they could not think you have pensions just because of your age did you have any insurance cover ? sick pay ?

lastfirst
06-13-2012, 03:36 PM
is due to come up for review on the 5/9/12

I am confused as to how if I have a pension is related to when my ESA will come up for a review? Do you mind to explain it to me please?

I never got sick pay and had no insurance cover either?