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    Dla to pip - what the future holds

    There’s now little room for doubt that PIP will be introduced next year. The only real question is whether anything can be done to make it less unfair than it is at present.

    To that end the DWP has got some resources that we hope you will make use of.

    The DWP have produced a PIP self test http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/per...t=26+jan+20102 that allows you to score yourself for the daily living and mobility components of PIP with a few clicks of your mouse. It will do the maths for you, tell you what components you assess yourself as qualifying for and even email you a copy of your results if you want it to.

    The DWP also published a PIP points system http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/per...t=26+jan+20102, how many you need to score to get awards of PIP and definitions of some of the main terms that are used in the PIP test.

    Finally, once you've assessed your PIP scores, we’ve put a DLA to PIP transfer survey online http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/53P9CT5 that allows you to compare your current DLA award with the award you assess yourself as qualifying for under PIP. It also lets you say whether you think PIP is an improvement over DLA and what difference you think PIP will make to your life.

    The survey is completely anonymous, but the results and comments are being published online as they arrive.

    Hundreds of people have already completed the survey and there are some very clear trends emerging, especially in relation to how many people are expecting to lose their higher rate mobility – and how few people think PIP is an improvement over DLA.

    You can read the results here http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/per...survey-results. We would warn you, however, not to read the comments at the end of the survey about how PIP will change people’s lives if you are feeling at all low or vulnerable – some are quite distressing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighttouch View Post
    There’s now little room for doubt that PIP will be introduced next year. The only real question is whether anything can be done to make it less unfair than it is at present.

    To that end the DWP has got some resources that we hope you will make use of.

    The DWP have produced a PIP self test http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/per...t=26+jan+20102 that allows you to score yourself for the daily living and mobility components of PIP with a few clicks of your mouse. It will do the maths for you, tell you what components you assess yourself as qualifying for and even email you a copy of your results if you want it to.

    The DWP also published a PIP points system http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/per...t=26+jan+20102, how many you need to score to get awards of PIP and definitions of some of the main terms that are used in the PIP test.

    Finally, once you've assessed your PIP scores, we’ve put a DLA to PIP transfer survey online http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/53P9CT5 that allows you to compare your current DLA award with the award you assess yourself as qualifying for under PIP. It also lets you say whether you think PIP is an improvement over DLA and what difference you think PIP will make to your life.

    The survey is completely anonymous, but the results and comments are being published online as they arrive.

    Hundreds of people have already completed the survey and there are some very clear trends emerging, especially in relation to how many people are expecting to lose their higher rate mobility – and how few people think PIP is an improvement over DLA.

    You can read the results here http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/per...survey-results. We would warn you, however, not to read the comments at the end of the survey about how PIP will change people’s lives if you are feeling at all low or vulnerable – some are quite distressing.
    I think you are mistaken and your post might miss lead people I don't think the DWP have anything to do with the self testing that you can carry out on B&W web site I think its all the work of Steve and co to claim its to do with the DWP could miss lead people


    are you claiming that the DWP set up the test on B&W web site as you claim in your post ?

    all the DWP have done is released as paper a second draft Nov 2011 and case studies this month

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    Well, whatever, whoever, I took it. Interesting results. Right now I get HRM & MRC. Under this test alone that I took, I would get HRC/HRL & LRM. One of the problems on the mobility is how it is worded. I do not use a wheelchair yet, so I cannot click that one, but I cannot walk without breaks every few feet or so, & these periods of sitting down get longer the longer I am out & about.
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    Info from Benefits and Work not DWP - my error

    Above info from Benefits and Work - you just can't get the staff these days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stepheninleeds View Post
    Well, whatever, whoever, I took it. Interesting results. Right now I get HRM & MRC. Under this test alone that I took, I would get HRC/HRL & LRM. One of the problems on the mobility is how it is worded. I do not use a wheelchair yet, so I cannot click that one, but I cannot walk without breaks every few feet or so, & these periods of sitting down get longer the longer I am out & about.
    then from what you say on one hand you wont get mobility but then if you cant repeat movment in a safe manner then you get mobility

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    On Wednesday the government is planning to reverse the Lords amendments on welfare http://carerwatch.com/reform/?p=559
    Sign Pat's Petition before Wednesday to show MPs they can't do this
    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/20968

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    I do not know Dave, it confused me. I tried to answer honestly, but those choices are so specific. I siffer a lot of pain, I cannot balance, I cannot stand, I cannot walk without stumbling, losing my balance, many things in fact. But the next choice is for wheelchair, & I do not use that.
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