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    Pip up coming tribunal - seriously scared

    Hi everyone,

    I am really scared as I have a pip tribunal in less than two weeks. I suffer from panic disorder and depression and I missed out on getting pip by 1 point.

    I just keep thinking that I'm going to fail, I've got all the evidence I can from my psychiatrist which states clearly, she cannot cook, go out alone or socialise face to face due to her disorder and that my partner has become my carer. I feel as if no matter what evidence I provide it's never good enough and I fear that I'll end up being refused again. I just can't cope anymore with the stress. Oh by the way the lady who did my assessment was a physiotherapists so how can her word be take over mine ? Will the same thing happen at the tribunal ?

    If anyone could tell me what they think the outcome will be for based on what I've described here that would be great. Or any advice regarding the tribunal process would be really helpful. I can't sleep at night anymore because of this and I just need some reassurance from people who've already been through it :'(

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    Theres no easy answer im afraid in depends on the people. But I can say that the people you see will be under a stricter light than your previous assessors. They have to take into account the evidence and in my experience it can sometimes be a stressful time but it will be they job to prove you can do something, whereas before it was your job to proof you cant.

    Had an ESA assessment before that was stressful but clinical and they only wanted facts as long as you can state your case which is easy because its only stating the truth you will be fine.

    Got my PIP assessment in 5 days so if you want i can come on and let you know the process first hand before your date.
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    Had mine last july. The tribunal was very informal & they go out of their way to make you feel at ease. Don't worry, if you have your medical evidence etc. then you will be fine on the day. Best wishes.

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    The tribunal is completely impartial so they're more likely to listen to you and look at your evidence objectively that the f2f accessor. Like you, I think it's ridiculous that your f2f accessors can be someone with no training in your particular illness/disability. How can they fairly access how a mental illness affect you when they have no training in mental health? I was accessed by a general nurse and because she didn't think I looked anxious she dismissed my diagnosed anxiety disorder. The tribunal will be different. You'll be speaking to 3 people - the judge, a doctor and a disability expert. They'll ask you questions about your day to day difficulties and you'll have the chance to fully explain how things affect you. Remember a lot of DWPs decisions are overturned at appeal. I won't tell you not to worry because I know that's impossible - I've been having anxiety attacks and anxiety dreams all week (tribunal on 24th) - but know there's lots of help out there. You can contact CAB to get you a representative who'll help you prepare for the tribunal and will look up case law to back up your case.

    Good luck!

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    Hi everyone,

    Thank you so much for the replies they really helped me to feel more confident. And yeah I'd love to hear how all of your appeals went and defo let you know about mine.

    Good luck for your tribunals and I hope it goes in your favour. Stay strong and keep on fighting.

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    Okay,

    Good news, I won my appeal, enhanced motability and standard daily care

    Still can't belive it, the judges were so nice and understanding . They all agreed that the report was full of errors, the health assessor didn't even mention panic disorder on the report, like seriously! ! I was open about my struggle and I'm so glad I kept fighting all the way till the end. Just really scared now that the dwp will appeal because of the enhanced motability :'(

    I know it's changed recently but I think those of us with mental health issues finally canot qualify for the help we need. I'm exhausted from the constant worry over pip but sadly till I know that the dwp won't appeal it I think I'm probably gonna still feel really down.

    Thank you guys for the support and I hope every thing has gone well for you

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    I would be VERY interested in seeing their decision, I would not be surprised if the DWP request a statement of reasons.

    Would you mind telling me what they based their decision on?

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    Glad that you won your tribunal ! So you should have.
    Dont worry too much about the DWP & statement of reasons. Like us they can only appeal to the upper tribunal on a point of law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobcarerT View Post
    I would be VERY interested in seeing their decision, I would not be surprised if the DWP request a statement of reasons.

    Would you mind telling me what they based their decision on?
    Well basically my condition means that I can't leave the house unattended, I haven't left the house alone in over a year, due to my panic disorder it causes me to suffer from panic attacks every time I'm outside, even when I'm with my partner. So I'm guessing it was that. I know the law changed recently regarding the motability element for mental health so I think they applied this to my case.

    I'm actually so down about it now, I just want to cry at the thought that they could appeal it, I can't face anymore months of uncertainty from the dwp

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    Thank you so much

    I'm happy that I won just hoping the don't appeal it, I'm loosing sleep over it

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