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    HELP, so confused about WAV's and PIP

    If I get a WAV on Motability using my PIP payment it shows on the Motability site that there is an advanced payment.
    E.g Fiat Qubo 1.3TD Multijet Lounge - PIP Advance Payment £1,595.00

    Can anyone give me a straight answer to this question....

    Does the car come already converted with a ramp and removable chairs for me to drive my power chair straight in, OR, do I have to pay more (on top of the £1,595.00 advanced payment) to have the car converted to a WAV?

    I've been to a few car dealers and they don't give a straight answer or they contradict each other! I've searched the Motability website and cannot find an answer!

    I'm getting more and more frustrated and angry about the whole thing ??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speps View Post
    If I get a WAV on Motability using my PIP payment it shows on the Motability site that there is an advanced payment.
    E.g Fiat Qubo 1.3TD Multijet Lounge - PIP Advance Payment £1,595.00

    Can anyone give me a straight answer to this question....

    Does the car come already converted with a ramp and removable chairs for me to drive my power chair straight in, OR, do I have to pay more (on top of the £1,595.00 advanced payment) to have the car converted to a WAV?

    I've been to a few car dealers and they don't give a straight answer or they contradict each other! I've searched the Motability website and cannot find an answer!

    I'm getting more and more frustrated and angry about the whole thing ??????
    I'm giving this a guess, and would say some cars have basic adaptations, and some need to be tailored to your specific needs, like someone who for example has no legs, so would need all gears high up etc - that's me hazarding a guess, that a car such as that would need to be tailored to their specific needs. Hope you get it sorted.
    Last edited by Wellness; 03-18-2017 at 06:05 PM.

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    Basically yes they come with a certain degree of conversion; including items such as a ramp, lowered floor, tie downs etc. If you click on 'More Details' on the list of vehicles then you'll find additional information. It will show who the converter is and a link to their website. Go to their website for more information and give them a call. You will be able to arrange a demo and discuss any additional changes you may require, some of which may incur additional charges.

    If you're going to main dealers, i.e. Fiat then they will know very little about the conversion process.
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    I’ve not got a WAV myself but the cars I have had have adaptions added to them and these adaption have to be order at the dealer so if it’s a Motability approved dealer they should know. That said when I ordered my first Motability car back in 08 the showroom Motability specialist was not in the showroom that day but the stand in was OK for me.

    With the cost, I’ve always paid this myself but then the cost have only been £650 on my first car, £260 on the second and much the same on my current car.

    Motability will help you apparently with the cost of any extras as long as you’re not a millionaire but I would think you need to ask them first as I assume there is some sort of means testing.

    The Advance Payment has nothing to do with any adaptions and has to be paid to cover the cost of vehicles that cost more than your PIP, DLA etc allowance.

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    A WAV is a wheelchair accessible vehicle.

    They come in different sizes and layouts.

    You can get them new or nearly new, both on Motability.

    New wavs are on the Motability website. For a nearly new you need to find a supplier.

    Google "Motability nearly new wavs"

    Nearly new wavs are no more than 2 and a half years old and usually low mileage.

    I have just ordered a Ford Connect WAV, reg 2016, £1,195.00 ap.

    To get an idea of what is available,go to alliedmobility website.

    Hope this helps

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    I will always buy a used WAV. I cannot see the point in throwing away money - especially as I will never own what I'm paying for.

    Good ones can be bought for less than £5,000.00. Ok, so they're a few years old, but they will have always been well maintained.

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    I have a WAV. Basically there are x2 parts:

    1) Primary conversion : This is non reversible and involves removing floor and lowering and installing ramp

    2) Secondary Adaptions: i.e. Hand controls may be done locally if you need to be present for fitting


    Maybe an idea to spend many months or even a couple of years researching as it can be an expensive mistake if you just choose the first one. Highly recommend NOT doing this via Motability. Go on eBay and search "Wheelchair accessible vehicles"
    A new one with all the adaptations could cost in excess of £50k.
    You can get a very decent 2nd hand one for a fraction of the cost.

    Also WAVs are a total nightmare for parking - can't park on street as you will get blocked in, can't park in a multi-storey as boot is higher than car if you enter via the boot. Side ramps require you to park next to hash lines and often cars block these.

    If you are able to walk a few steps you are at a massive financial advantage because you can have a boot hoist on an ordinary car at a fraction of the cost. You will also be able to park absolutely anywhere.
    Last edited by CrippledLassie; 03-20-2017 at 07:15 PM.
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    If you can afford to wait a few months, go to one of the "one big day" events - google it.

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