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    DLA to PIP, with ESA question (long, possibly confusing)

    Hello,

    I was here a couple of months ago about my ESA claim. Which is in a total mess. ATOS or whoever refused to assess me on the grounds it would be too dangerous to do so and dwp disputed this. They're currently going back and forth with it, I've been forced to redo ESA50 twice in four months. I'm getting basic rate and have lost a lot of money - I was in support group with extra money due to being on long term IB before being on ESA in support group.

    Two weeks ago I got my 'invite' to apply for PIP. It's been a total disaster, I've been in mental health crisis and refused any support as it's totally normal to go into crisis when this happens. I rang to apply but couldn't cope with the questions - I really struggle to use the phone, the person doing the claim had a go at me and told me my claim was closed for non compliance. I contacted mental health services in a state and was told I wouldn't get pip as the point is to stop it and make people work. In the end a social worker rang to get me transferred saying they were appointee, I had severe depression and they would fill in form, do supporting letter so would my GP. They told social worker that it would take about six months and I'd get DLA that entire time and could return the form whenever.

    After the call the social worker said that they couldn't do the form. I'd need to go to CAB in another county and they just said they would help to get the call over with. This pushed me over the edge and they then dumped me at GP surgery for support. GP promised to ring and get me help. Last week I saw another social worker who told me I must urgently sort a private worker to help with form because if it's not done within 28 days of the call I will lose my income - all of it. Turns out the ESA I've been getting was partly to do with my DLA so if it stops I lose that as well.

    I saw my GP Friday and they told me they will not be helping me at all with the transfer, there will be no supporting letter or documentation as social worker categorically told them they would be doing it. The GP threw me out for being overly dramatic after I had a panic attack as I cannot afford to lose the money - I'm on my own already in rent arrears and terrified as my county only give emergency accomodation to the most severely disabled (ESA support group). I then spoke to social services who told me no they will not help and will not contact GP. GP said everyone gets PIP and there's nothing st all to panic about and how I get a specialist form based on phone call - how can that be if they asked no questions about my conditions?? And will be sent specialist questionnaire to fill in so no report allowed. They said they won't see me again about mental health or the form and I'm to stop being silly about it being stopped.

    I can't do the form as I can't write. The esa50 I do online.

    I'm really really scared. Less than 200 people in my county have managed to get PIP. There's no help for appeals or doing the form.,literally nothing.

    I don't understand what's going on, at all. Why did the pip person say there's no return date when social worker told me its 28 days? The assessment centre is now eighty miles away and I've not been more than a mile from my home in two years. I cannot travel due to pain and have no space at all to have another person where I live - tiny single bedroom with kitchenette and shower in room, I get claustrophobic being here alone, I can't cope with another person. I can't get letter from GP.

    It feels totally hopeless. I don't believe GP when they say I'll definitely get full pip at all. Even staying on JSA here is really hard - there's 300 people claiming that in my county.

    I'd really appreciate some advice as I'm not coping at all, with no support now. In the last year I've known two, far more disabled people, be refused PIP and fail at appeal due to no support available.

    I'm sorry this is long, but if anyone can help clarify things for me I'd really appreciate it.

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    So sorry you are having to do this on your own, but you must get the form sent back or your claim will stop. You can ring and ask for an extension which you should do asap.
    This site is great but for more indepth templates for filling in form try

    www.benefitsandwork.co.uk
    Anything expressed is my opinion only and is offered in good faith. It is either from my own experiance or what I have learned on my journey. Take it for what it is or leave it alone. With best wishes D.

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    ive been getting DLA for mental health since 1997 i fully expect to loose this when assessed for PIP (as PIP is a LOT harder to get) for people with mental health issues.

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    I can only send back a blank form. I can't write and have no longer have any access to printer to send printed pages. I can't phone then because I can't use a phone - they closed my claim when I tried because I struggle to use phones. You must be able to answer security questions, and I can't.

    There's no library or similar accessible to me anymore due to deterioration in my condition.

    I'd assumed they were wrong and I'd lose my money, looks like I'm right.

    Thanks.

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    If you don't complete the form your claim will be closed.
    Do you have a friend or familly member who can assist ?
    The DWP helpline, if you can manage to phone them, may be able to help
    Even if your claim has been closed you can request a mandatory reonsideration you can also submit a new claim as there is no waiting time if there is no award in payment.
    What county are you in ?
    have you tried other welfare organisations for help ?
    Anything expressed is my opinion only and is offered in good faith. It is either from my own experiance or what I have learned on my journey. Take it for what it is or leave it alone. With best wishes D.

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    Try Mind,
    https://www.mind.org.uk/

    You can email them

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    I have no one. That's the point. No family no friends. The people I had to help are dead.

    That's why I went to social services, that's why they rang, they aren't allowed to if you have family or friends or anyone else. I can't travel. The mind email account is no use to me when I need help with a form and the nearest branch is a county away.

    The medical centre in my county is now closed and there's no way I can get to a medical.

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    I just needed to find out what I was told about having months was true, it obviously isn't so I'll be losing my income, can't even get to jobcentre as again it's too far.

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    I'm sorry for putting my distress on here.

    Welfare organisations are very specific and need referral from psychiatrist. I don't have psychiatrist. I was discharged a year ago as depression isn't allowed at mental health team now so I don't qualify. They've refused referrals back, when GP was willing to try. I tried the organisations when got letter they refused as not allowed. I have physical and mental disabilities - the organisations are mental only and won't see anyone without psychiatrist letter and cpn details.

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    Try a charity that deals with your physical disabilities.
    Here we have an Unemployed Workers Centre that help with claims for disability benefits, you don't have to be unemployed to access their help, and will also do home visits. They helped me and I am over 65 so retired. There may be one in your area that do the same. Do a search and try them.

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