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    Why doesn’t Iain Duncan Smith trust a doctor’s decision?

    I don't know if any of you have seen http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/...ment-530990014 In todays Indy or this http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...rt-of-comments from the Grauniad

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    Nop, not seen it, & will not see it as I do not like anything they say or he says.

    Based on your Subject. It is simple, those the government contract are willing to say what the government want them to say so they can keep getting the money for doing it. Our doctors are suppose to be paid to help us.
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    It's not just IDS, the Labour party brought in ATOS and apparently their Doctor's know better than our Consultants until the eventual Tribunal that is.

    I wish people would stop attacking the government. They are trying to fix things in a poor economic climate brought on my the ineptitude of bankers. It was the Labour party that brought in PIP, yet people aren't blaming them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    It's not just IDS, the Labour party brought in ATOS and apparently their Doctor's know better than our Consultants until the eventual Tribunal that is.

    I wish people would stop attacking the government. They are trying to fix things in a poor economic climate brought on my the ineptitude of bankers. It was the Labour party that brought in PIP, yet people aren't blaming them?
    True, Labour thought of the idea,but the Tories are implenting the idea. The Tories are also not listening to concerns about the assessments with it being ATOS.

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    You're right, but has any government ever listened to us?
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    In opposition they are always on our side, this time Labour is not. When in power they always please the rich & powerful. We will lose Ł2 Bn with Northern Rock, that we can never get back. There are billions owed in taxes by the rich & powerful companies, yet they are going after ordinary people. Governments have never been about the people, just the rich.
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    If you notice from previous history Maggie was halfway to closing the NHS and the welfare state down. Cammyboy has simply restarted that process with a vengeance. Everything they are doing now is just a natural progression from the last time the Tories were in power. Because of the natural wastage of old school Labourites being filled up with younger yuppie type socialists Labour is now closer to Conservatism than they were 2 decades ago. There is now no difference between the 3 main parties in their attitudes towards those they see as tax leeches. The more that has to be paid out of the taxes towards the welfare state the less there is for them being the prime focus.

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    I have said this for years. I said it before Blair became an MP in 1983. I knew there where he was going & where he would take the Labour Party. I saw the same thing with Cammy when he was a SPAD to Norman Lamont, & they both managed to bring us to our knees on Black Wednesday in 1992, & you could see Cammy in the background, like a sly fox waiting to pounce. I wonder which of the rats jumped out of the ERM boat first, then came up with the idea to raise interest rates from 10% to 12% then to 15%. Yes, Cammy had all the skills to make a bad MP then, & he has not learnt a thing in those 20 years.
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    From 1983 to 1967 I was apparently not unemployed, or at least not counted. A tory trick of finding 'new ways to calculate'. What did cammy boy do 1st. A 'new way of calculating unemployed', and halved the figures. Interest rates with the wicked witch of the west hit 18% then dropped to 15%. What is happening now? They are slowly but inevitably rising. I had my house repossessed in 92. One of 102,000 that year. How many per year before Barosos puppet has finished. Red shoes girl reduced the Armed Forces by? you guessed it 20,000 same as hoodie hugger. Police dropped to 92,000, same as they are being reduced to the same level now. Rent and Rate Rebate changed to HB and stopped paying water. HB is now being sstopped partially if you have a 'spare room'. What I'm not allowed my grandchildren to stay? They have to sleep on the floor if they do? One of the biggest crimes Witch lady did? She made Invalid Care Allowance taxable. A 'benefit' supposed to 'pay' a carer to look after a disabled person. This enabled the Social Security (DWP) to deduct it from IS. Why do people still vote for these parties, they know what is going to happen. As a final point. Who introduce MPs expenses I wonder? Ah. Maggie did.

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    Do not get me started. A lot of this was discussed in the 80s, not publically. Maggie did a lot od bad, as did Major & Blair, even Brown, but they all knew there was a limit. In fact, Maggie learnt the hard way with the Poll Tax. Cammy & his baboons do not care.
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