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    Universal credit and possibly moving to Brighton

    Hi guys,

    I may be swapping houses to one in Brighton, I'm currently on ESA support group, contribution based. If I move to Brighton will I be forced into universal credit?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeurologicalNed View Post
    Hi guys,

    I may be swapping houses to one in Brighton, I'm currently on ESA support group, contribution based. If I move to Brighton will I be forced into universal credit?

    Thanks in advance.
    i think its only income related esa that can claim UC

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    That's correct Contribution Based benefits stay out of UC.

    BUT.

    If the area you move to is Full Service UC then any Housing Benefit, etc. and so any IR top up will become a new claim for UC.

    So you could end up with a mix of CB ESA and UC for other things.

    The particular concern is if you get SDP on your ESA claim.
    You will lose this if you move onto UC at this time.

    SDP is not payable with UC.

    If you don't currently get SDP then you should not see much difference.

    It all depends if the area you move to is Full Service or Live Service for UC.
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    If I recall Ned's circumstances correctly he has a couples claim running with the 'Carers Premium' top up (which is obviously Income Related), plus HB, CTC, etc, though probably with an underlying entitlement to Contribution Based (CB) ESA.
    So, if the proposed move is to a Full Service UC area it may pay to look at claiming CB ESA which is only payable to the sole claimant (£109 pw) and the wife/partner claiming full 'Carers Allowance' which with everything else HB, CTC, etc would fall under UC.

    It's quite possible there may be a marginal improvement there, though I think a full benefit check is in order to review the whole situation.

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    It's going to depend on just when you are moving, but unless it's a very quick move then it's going to be Full Service, and so at least partly UC.

    Brighton jobcentre is currently Live Service, but is due to become Full Service this month, (unless it's delayed for some reason).
    Hove jobcentre became Full Service last month.
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    Sorry guys, I checked with the Mrs, I am on income based, not cb. I always get them mixed up!

    So if I do move I will have to go on UC. .
    The Mrs really wants to be by the sea so it's weighing up whether it's worth it or not. We currently live in the midlands.

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    It all depends on your situation and circumstances.

    For example I just checked mine and I would be 29p a week better off on UC.
    (I'm not rushing anytime soon).
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    Quote Originally Posted by nukecad View Post
    It all depends on your situation and circumstances.

    For example I just checked mine and I would be 29p a week better off on UC.
    (I'm not rushing anytime soon).
    29p a week is £15.08 a year

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeurologicalNed View Post
    Sorry guys, I checked with the Mrs, I am on income based, not cb. I always get them mixed up!

    So if I do move I will have to go on UC. .
    The Mrs really wants to be by the sea so it's weighing up whether it's worth it or not. We currently live in the midlands.
    I should make sure the Mrs knows that its way pricier to live dahn south than us Midlanders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reddivine View Post
    I should make sure the Mrs knows that its way pricier to live dahn south than us Midlanders.
    That's a good point and one I hadn't considered.

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