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    PIP refusual

    Just wondering if anybody can give me some advice please. I applied for PIP in June and finally just had my decision letter and it says u need 8points to recieve daily living.. Then it states that i have recieved 8points but still been refused- has this happened to anybody else? I am awaiting a call from the decision maker to discuss this, but its a few werks before christmas so i cant see me actually getting to speak to them at all. Iv rang and been fobbed off that they cannot transfare my call to the person i wish to speak to, even though on the letter it says that i could call to discuss this with them.
    I only have 30days from the date on the letter to ask for a mandatory reconsideretion, so im already 1week out as my decision was made last week and i only recieved my letter yesterday.

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    pepsi so sorry this has happened.

    this greedy government have set up PIP in such a way that millions are now unlikely to get the benefit as it is designed to simply save as much money as possible even though many like yourself are really entitled to it.

    as it is a new benefit until more people come on then there will be little to go on and all i can suggest is that you get on the phone and tell them you want a reconsideration, also put it in writing and anything you do from this point must be also in writing for your own records.

    also keep copies of anything you send them, send any thing also recorded.

    no doubt this forum will see loads coming on with the same turn downs.

    s.s fight them

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    I'm awaiting my decision to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi View Post
    Just wondering if anybody can give me some advice please. I applied for PIP in June and finally just had my decision letter and it says u need 8points to recieve daily living.. Then it states that i have recieved 8points but still been refused- has this happened to anybody else? I am awaiting a call from the decision maker to discuss this, but its a few werks before christmas so i cant see me actually getting to speak to them at all. Iv rang and been fobbed off that they cannot transfare my call to the person i wish to speak to, even though on the letter it says that i could call to discuss this with them.
    I only have 30days from the date on the letter to ask for a mandatory reconsideretion, so im already 1week out as my decision was made last week and i only recieved my letter yesterday.
    Don't know the answer to your question but I'm awaiting my decision having had my home visit for pip assessment on 04/11/2013 by Capita. I actually thought that the person assessing me was a Doctor but she corrected me and advised me that she was a nurse (in what area of nursing I have no idea) but I'm unaware of the ladies qualifications and ability to assess me.
    I recently spoke to a lady who organises and represents people at tribunals for pip and she was telling me that the person assessing could be a dental nurse!!!!
    I'm wondering if when doing tribunals we should be asking what experience in medical issues did the person conducting the assessment have, it's quite clear that someone from a dental nursing background would not be qualified in assessing someone with mental/physical issues and this may be a good line for some of us to take at tribunal stage.
    Sorry I could not help with your question, I'm sure someone will have the answer.

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    I am still waiting their call back to discuss my case. Their are a few major issues i have, one being at my medical assessment i offered further evidance regarding appointments that i was due to go to, and the person doing my medical refused to take them, they have also stated i am able to walk safely for 200m after "observing" my walking, well if walking 4steps using crutches and sitting down for the medical is classed as monitoring my walking then i dont see how that decision has been made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi View Post
    I am still waiting their call back to discuss my case. Their are a few major issues i have, one being at my medical assessment i offered further evidance regarding appointments that i was due to go to, and the person doing my medical refused to take them, they have also stated i am able to walk safely for 200m after "observing" my walking, well if walking 4steps using crutches and sitting down for the medical is classed as monitoring my walking then i dont see how that decision has been made.
    Hi Pepsi, can totally sympathise as in almost exactly the same boat as you, got my letter dated 29/11/13 on the 6/12/13 and rung up straight away only to be told I must wait for the phone call before I could do anything, on the letter it said I would be contacted on or after the 10th, I was contacted on the 11th but found this person no help at all, talk about wanting to shoot the messenger, all he was interested in was telling me what was in the letter and did not take any notice of my queries and concerns regarding the assessment, told to write with any other information regarding my condition, I will be writing in expressing my concerns and will make sure they receive it before the 1 month deadline, in effect only 2 weeks now, sending it by recorded post, 6.00 +, money I can least afford.
    Pepsi, you too should do the same then at least you wont lose the back pay which I am sure is what they want, call me cynical but I can't believe how hard they are making it for us to get the benefits we need.
    Phil

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    If you look at your decision letter under "How your decision was reached", what is your total score for the Daily Living activities? The letter will likely say "This means your total score for Daily Living activities is .. points" somewhere on the second or third page. Your 8 points must all be on the Daily Living activities to give you the standard rate of the Daily Living component.

    Points on the Mobility activities only count towards the Mobility component.


    Maybe the more likely explanation is that you've been given 8 points on Daily Living activities, but the decision maker has decided your problems will not last long enough to entitle you to PIP.

    The first day you can be entitled to PIP is the day you claimed PIP or when your problems have lasted 3 months, whichever is the later. This day is known as the "qualifying date" and this criterion is the "qualifying period".

    You will only be paid PIP if your problems are assessed as likely to last 9 months from the qualifying date. This criterion is known as the "prospective test".

    My suspicion is that the Decision Maker has concluded you do not satisfy the prospective test. Is there anything about this under the "Decision Maker's Reasoning" heading in your letter?


    My recommendation is not just to ask for a reconsideration, as you increase the chances of changing the decision by providing new arguments and/or evidence (if you can obtain any evidence within the tight timescale - if necessary, send a reconsideration request that states evidence will follow, but do not run over the time window for reconsideration). By understanding why you failed to get PIP, you stand a much greater chance of arguing successfully for a change in the decision.

    On the specific issue of appointment letters, they give very little information unless they are for some sort of treatment, which is probably why the assessor refused to take them. Reports from specialists (including copies of letters sent by a specialist to your GP), reports written by your GP or extracts from your medical records are potentially much more useful.

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    Well my decision is now getting its mandatory reconsideration, theyve sent for another copy of my medical report after iv sent them more evidence regarding future hospital appointments. Hopefully will get somewhere now as the operation im waiting for cant get done until after iv had my baby and physio cant do muchh with me being pregnant which puts me in the "9month" time scale that is needed to recieve it.. Fingers crossed!!!

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