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    Yes, but that is a question I cannot answer. Of course the answer is obvious, but how fair is that?

    I fear this is only the beginning, I do not trust them at all. Sadly cutting benefits it not something that causes most voters to shout loud enough for politicians to fear losing.
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    I really don't agree with the extent and the speed of the changes going on right now. I fear that the change to PIP will cause confusion, delays and distress to many. And I also fear the effects on people of reducing the number of Care components to 2 on the grounds - apparently - that people can live on microwave meals.
    So please to take this the wrong way but - if there had been a consistent personal medical assessment for DLA from day one the number of fraudulent claims would have been almost zero. The heavy reliance on what is largely a self assessment questionnaire has not only disadvantaged some genuine claimants but also left DLA wide open to abuse. It could have worked much better if GP's had continued to really know their patients and do their own home visits. These days that doesn't happen, and GP's are asked questions about eligibility for DLA using criteria which they really aren't in a position to comment on.
    So there ARE a number of faults with DLA and it DOES need shaking up. But it is still an essential part of the welfare system and I think the change to PIP is being done in a way which is - and will - cause distress and hardship to those who depend on it so much.
    As for the idea that people can live on 'ready' meals - no. Absolutely not. That goes against everything the government tells us about healthy eating, and takes away freedom of choice. Perhaps if the old 'meals on wheels' service was brought back that would help to some extent, but that isn't going to happen.

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    I hate most ready made meals, I really do hate them. It is not just being awkward. I feel they are terrible. You have a choice of something with no taste, or something that has a lot of fat or sugar in it,, or you can get the meat cooked & the veg rock rock hard or the meat tough & the veg cooked. I do not want cheap meals that I do not like, & they are not always that cheap. And that does not stop some of us dropping the food, cutting ourselves when trying to open the thing up. The plastic is so hard to open I need a knife, & cut myself just as much. I spill the meal over me & still burn myself. These meals are not always an easy alternative. I have trouble setting the microwave time, I can turn on an oven easier.

    I am not a big fan of frozen meals. It does not taste as good as fresh. I can buy prepared fresh veg & meats these days, they cost a little more, but they are often nicer. I might prepare the veg in the microwave, in a steamer bag, but that is risky for me. Better than using apan of boiling water.

    This is an insult to us. To say we can manage on ready made meals, who says we can? We are told meals on Wheels are healthy, must will not touch them now as they are so bad, they have such low quality ingredients in them. We have to have a freezer to store them. Usually they are easier to open than the stupid plastic film.

    I do not feel assessments catch most cheaters because they now how to lie, to doctors & assessors. They do it from the start, with conditions that are hard to define, or where the disabilities related to it are harder to prove if they are real or not. Anyone can linp, bend over double, say they are in terrible pain, sit in a wheelchair.
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    Although I also hate ready meals and they do not conform to the strict diet I have to follow, if I was forced to have them I couldn't transport them to a table to sit and eat. So what would I do, try to carry them and end up with it all over the floor or stand at the microwave and eat them there whilst leaning on the worktop.

    IMO not an option, I do have some pride.

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    I too are on a strict diet with an incurable diease and my DLA is used to buy certain foods which can be quite expensive. Regarding Microwave wave meals no way could i cook them they would be on the kitchen floor before they hit the microwave which i dont use cant even open the door. Like Beau says about transporting them what about getting the cling film off if you have limited hand use? One last thing if DLA is lost which saves money so would Carers Allownace saving even more money. This crap goverment know what they are doing and couldnt care a tinkers cuss about us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trickiedickie View Post
    I too are on a strict diet with an incurable diease and my DLA is used to buy certain which can be quite expensive. Regarding Microwave waves no way could i cook them they would be on the kitchen floor before they hit the micrwave which i dont use cant even open the door. Like Beau says about transporting them what abour getting the cling film off if you have limited hand use? One last thing if DLA is lost which saves money so would Carers Allownace saving even more money. This crap goverment know what they are doing and could care a tinkers cuss about us.
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    like the fact points scored on the new test are missing from the new documents so too is what happned to carer allowoance and mobility cars it could be things are not that bad BUt we should be given all the information to work out for sure whats happening 2014

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    Also when finishing heating up a ready meal in the microwave, most of the time it's too hot to take it out.

    It just burns me.

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    Yes, it burns me too, & who can get them out without spilling it? I would have to take it all out, put it in containers, put cling film over. How the hell am I suppose to do all that without some sort of incident? And who the hell can use cling film, it is not user-friendly let alone disabled-friendly?

    I am thinking of looking for a decent ready made meal again, & trying it. So I looked at prices. I can buy some chicken, prepared veg, gravy, Yorkshire puddings, mash & a pudding cheaper.
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    Dla/pip statement

    Quote Originally Posted by Hera View Post
    Hi Rob, could you tell me where you found this, is there more content?
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    SPOTTED IT ON THIS FORUM ...http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/for...owcat&catid=10
    IT WAS POSTED A FEW DAYS BACK SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO TRAWL THRU THE LISTINGS AM AFRAID ,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hera View Post
    Rob I haven't been anywhere, on the contrary I have been following the PIP with interest since it was first announced, however I haven't heard that ; From April 2013 to march EVERYONE aged 16 to 64 receiving DLA WILL be reassessed to see whether they are entitiled to the new Personal Independence Payment.
    I was under the impression that nothing definite had been decided yet, yet this sounded definite, so I just asked where you had seen this and was there more content, to clarify.
    The PIP is just another way of the government trying to look like they are getting people off benefits, it isn't designed to do anything but juggle the figures. Just as the ESA wasn't designed to do anything except juggle the figures, and at the same time stare up hate for the sick and disabled of this country.
    I have been fighting this along with several hundreds, and maybe thousands of people, and I intend to keep fighting, but in order to do that I need to gather as much information as I possibly can, so while my question might have seemed as though I had been hiding under a stone, it wasn't. Thanks for the response anyway, and keep up the good work. There are several websites helping with the fight one being
    http://dwpexaminations.blacktriangle...gn.org/phpBB3/ If you can guide me to any more useful information I would be grateful. Regards Hera
    Unfortunately Hera this is not a case of the government massaging figures, but a case of the government throwing people of benefits to save money - if only it were a case of massaging figures ! It is truly terrifying times for us all

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