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Thread: ESA & PIP claims - consultant letter stating I cannot work

  1. #11
    Hi Buble48

    Many thanks for your reply and the info you have provided. Yes I have applied for both over the phone, but I’ve received the PIP form and I’m currently waiting for the forms to ESA to arrive.

    Yes you’re right, it does take me much longer to get dressed and to shower than it used to and I often find myself taking breaks and going at a much slower pace. Cooking, I tend to make easier meals than I used to because I haven’t got the energy to cook much anymore! When I do, I tend to sit on my dining chair whilst waiting and get so tired I sometimes forget until my smoke alarm goes off! But my biggest problem is walking. I can walk, but I’m so fatigued that even the shortest distance can wear me out and I need to sit down for hours afterwards. I get very easily out of breath, and climbing the stairs leaves my heart pounding. I am hoping all this will get me enough points, as I don’t want to lie. Looking at the form, I won’t score points for toileting, dealing with money etc...

    I will certainly let you know how I get on. Thanks ever so much.

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    Just thinking back to what you said about horror stories.

    Remember that those who have no problems with their claims don't need help and so you don't see them online.

    It's only when someone has a problem that they ask for help or have a moan.
    I'm intelligent enough to know that I don't know everything.
    But I'm good at searching for, and finding, stuff.


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  3. #13
    Hi Ned

    I’m so pleased to hear that you’ve been awarded both ESA and PIP but it sounds like you had to fight to get both these. This is what I’m worried about, if you had to appeal with all your evidence then I am not holding much hope for myself! I don’t have much medical evidence although I know my file in the hospital is huge! I just don’t have a copy of these records and the secretary isn’t very helpful at all - she’s far too busy to be helping me with records.

    Can I ask how you managed to get hold of your medical evidence? Was it through your GP surgery? I’ve just been told by my GP that if anyone contacts him he will try and support me. I’ve been given nothing in writing and fear he hasn’t written down how my condition affects me in my notes, just what my condition is.

    Thanks for taking the time to answer me, much appreciated

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    Yes I guess you’re right and that’s very true Nukecad, thank you again.

    I’m just making myself feel worse by worrying so much.

    I guess we can only try our best. Thank you.

  5. #15
    Hi Cath, you're welcome.
    I'm honestly not trying to scare you, just wanted to give all the information and it certainly isn't easy, but make sure you fight as hard as you can and take them all the way if necessary. The letters are by no means a given and guarantee you ESA, it seems that the DWP will do whatever they can to deny you your benefit, even when you're clearly entitled to it.
    Just provide as much information as you can and be clear and concise when you have your assessment - you can almost guarantee you will be called for one.

    In regards to my medical evidence, I asked my specialists to write letters stating their diagnosis', state what my limitations are and that I am unable to manage with basic living independence and also working. The specialists also asked me if I wished to be sent all the evidence that is sent to my GP. This means I have been able to provide EMG test results and endoscopy results to support my claims.

    Take heart in the fact that I have been on benefits for 5 years now, this year, and I haven't had to go to a tribunal yet.

    Best of luck.

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    Letter from consultant is always much better. They know the detail of your condition and if he says, its dangerous to work - end of! the DWP can't argue with that.
    If you are struggling to cope with daily living, washing, dressing, cooking housework - contact social services - or bite the bullet, employ a cleaner or carer and pay yourself, its not worth killing yourself over.

  7. #17
    Hi Cath

    As nukecad said a lot of people get esa with no problems,first time I applied I didn't even send any medical evidence with my form and I got the highest rate without them needing to see me of course medical evidence can be helpful but the most important thing is how you describe the affects your condition has on you on your form so put as much detail in it as you can.

    Good luck.

  8. #18
    I agree you don't hear the good stories as much as the bad. I had ESA for five years no problem, no assessments straight into support group then the criteria I qualified under radically changed, I needed to appeal and then I had problems and constant assessment. I did, however, always post on forums i asked for help if things went well so at least people were aware.

    You really have no way of knowing. I posted the advice I wish id been given when having difficulties like enclosing prescriptions, getting a doctors letter (if possible).

    I have various guides but one thing I've found most useful is to treat every question separately so I never refer to another. I put all needs/difficulties with an activity in terms of all conditions on separate paper and move on. I do use cross referencing as well sometimes but rarely. The additional information I use for a diary of the time I've had the form. It means I repeat myself, a lot! I ignore the rules about percentages I just put what my needs are. I did use key words when doing the PIP form - you need to do things reliably, safely and in a timely manner and made sure I outlined all requirements for a medical (which went to three pages and evidence).

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by reddivine View Post
    Letter from consultant is always much better. They know the detail of your condition and if he says, its dangerous to work - end of! the DWP can't argue with that.
    If you are struggling to cope with daily living, washing, dressing, cooking housework - contact social services - or bite the bullet, employ a cleaner or carer and pay yourself, its not worth killing yourself over.
    But the point is they can argue it and sometimes do. But getting as much evidence you can together and giving detailed account when you speak to them at the assessment the better!

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Cath123 View Post
    Hi Oscarmax

    Thank you very much. I’ve always considered myself to have very good friends and family but since finding myself in this position I realise how alone I am. This is something only I can deal with. Not sure if you felt the same?

    I’m really pleased to hear you were awarded enough points and now getting the help you’re entitled to. Can I ask how you went about getting an in-depth medical report?

    I asked at my GP surgery and was told a copy of my medical records would cost me £50 and it’s a waste of time as it doesn’t make any difference to my claim. So I didn’t bother! The only thing I have is a letter from my consultant to my surgeon explainingmy condition and it mentions heart failure and my diagnosis. I have today received a letter from my surgeon which I requested and it mentions my symptoms and that they consider my request for ESA in a sympathetic manner and that he thinks I would struggle to cope with work. I’m not sure if this is enough evidence but I don’t have anything else. I’ve told my GP I’m feeling down and asked for something to help with anxiety but he won’t prescribe anything due to my heart condition. I’m not even sure he writes on my records about my symptoms and how I’m feeling so I fear my records just state my condition and not how it affects me personally.
    You are right so called friend desert you, but I am fortunate my wife family are excellent, strangely my family less say different, they shunned me completely.

    You will come across negative people, avoid them they will drag you down, be grateful you are still alive and have a second chance and I believe you said you have children, anyway good luck with your journey you will need it and all the best.

    My wife always request a copy of my consultants reports, plus she keeps my appointment letters. My GP sent me for physiotherapy after one of my falls, the physiotherapist referred me to Neurophysiology, they were the first people in 12 years to ask are we getting any support, they supplied a full report and support us to claiming PIP.

    For PIP, Neurosurgeons reports, Neurophysiologists reports Neurophysiology report and letter from the GP, Neuro even made an appointment with Citizens Advice .
    As regard ESA we had a dodgy assessment by ATOS, my GP and MP soon sorted that out.

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