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  1. #21
    Getting PIP has become more like securing a business deal than actually qualifying for something.
    I've read on forums populated by legal professionals whose job it is to support claimants, that the DWP will "offer" specific rates of PIP to ensure claimants don't further their appeal, but if they do choose to then that offer is withdrawn.

    In my eyes it's not about luck, but by appearing as a pillar of strength to them that you *are* aware of the guidelines and parameters, you *do* believe in what you are entitled to 100%, and that you *will* fight it all the way. And they are perfectly aware that there are some they can fob off, and some that won't give up. This is why the waiting times, and calls being cut off, the MR and the hoops to jump through all exist; to whittle down the numbers of people they will actually have to pay.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by NexivRed View Post
    Getting PIP has become more like securing a business deal than actually qualifying for something.
    I've read on forums populated by legal professionals whose job it is to support claimants, that the DWP will "offer" specific rates of PIP to ensure claimants don't further their appeal, but if they do choose to then that offer is withdrawn.

    In my eyes it's not about luck, but by appearing as a pillar of strength to them that you *are* aware of the guidelines and parameters, you *do* believe in what you are entitled to 100%, and that you *will* fight it all the way. And they are perfectly aware that there are some they can fob off, and some that won't give up. This is why the waiting times, and calls being cut off, the MR and the hoops to jump through all exist; to whittle down the numbers of people they will actually have to pay.
    This is an excellent post. I am probably not going to be forced to attend the F2F as I have specialist letters stating it puts me at risk of self harm, however one thing I have done right from the outset is write to my MP. They are getting in touch with DWP. I think it shows that I am not to be messed with.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by NexivRed View Post
    Getting PIP has become more like securing a business deal than actually qualifying for something.
    I've read on forums populated by legal professionals whose job it is to support claimants, that the DWP will "offer" specific rates of PIP to ensure claimants don't further their appeal, but if they do choose to then that offer is withdrawn.

    In my eyes it's not about luck, but by appearing as a pillar of strength to them that you *are* aware of the guidelines and parameters, you *do* believe in what you are entitled to 100%, and that you *will* fight it all the way. And they are perfectly aware that there are some they can fob off, and some that won't give up. This is why the waiting times, and calls being cut off, the MR and the hoops to jump through all exist; to whittle down the numbers of people they will actually have to pay.
    Hey NexivRed
    I guess we all have our opinions on this subject. I'm aware of people who have attended assessments and stayed very strong while describing their condition and how it affects and were then awarded nothing at all as the assessor decided they exhibited no problems whatsoever during their assessment. I don't think it pays to be strong at all during an assessment and that's where luck really does play a huge part as you could have an experienced, empathetic assessor who understands what you're going through or someone who couldn't care less and who just wants to save the government money. I agree that you need to be strong if you are going to fight a decision, sadly for some people that simply isn't possible and the toll the assessment takes is too much in itself. I've not heard anything about deals being done though as this would surely be illegal. I know that some claimants receive a "better" decision after a mandatory reconsideration but haven't heard anyone being offered a better rate of PIP if they don't appeal.

  4. #24
    hi nexivred you are right about the dwp offer a specific rate, i was offed hight daily living 12 point / mobitalty middle rate 10 points assessment nov 2015, i had being on full motability, before, but the award was made for ongoing i.e. 10 years , so the D.M. at the dwp said was i sure because the hole award will be looked at again, i said yes i want you to look again because, the points i had before assessment has change so much, i was assed in 2013, given 26 points daily living/16 point motability, the nurse that did assessment was just chipping away at my points, and i no that the reports from my gp /hospital consultant where not looked at great length / and she also got the medication i take completey wrong so this his why i think the dwp offer me and ongoing award, so it was given back to be looked at again and i was given back full motability, 16 points, daily living stop at 12 points but now giving for 5 year award, so i asked why not ongoing as before, answer was iff i taking, the award that was offer it would have being ongoing ,but because i had it looked at again i should only have 5 years award,so their used the length of award to get me to take a lesser award, so as you have said nexivred it was like securing a business deal regards

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by NexivRed View Post
    Getting PIP has become more like securing a business deal than actually qualifying for something.
    I've read on forums populated by legal professionals whose job it is to support claimants, that the DWP will "offer" specific rates of PIP to ensure claimants don't further their appeal, but if they do choose to then that offer is withdrawn.

    In my eyes it's not about luck, but by appearing as a pillar of strength to them that you *are* aware of the guidelines and parameters, you *do* believe in what you are entitled to 100%, and that you *will* fight it all the way. And they are perfectly aware that there are some they can fob off, and some that won't give up. This is why the waiting times, and calls being cut off, the MR and the hoops to jump through all exist; to whittle down the numbers of people they will actually have to pay.
    Hey NexivRed
    I guess we all have our opinions on this subject. I'm aware of people who have attended assessments and stayed very strong while describing their condition and how it affects and were then awarded nothing at all as the assessor decided they exhibited no problems whatsoever during their assessment. I don't think it pays to be strong at all during an assessment and that's where luck really does play a huge part as you could have an experienced, empathetic assessor who understands what you're going through or someone who couldn't care less and who just wants to save the government money. I agree that you need to be strong if you are going to fight a decision, sadly for some people that simply isn't possible and the toll the assessment takes is too much in itself. I've not heard anything about deals being done though as this would surely be illegal. I know that some claimants receive a "better" decision after a mandatory reconsideration but haven't heard anyone being offered a better rate of PIP if they don't appeal.
    Last edited by FeathersMcGraw; 07-27-2016 at 09:16 AM.

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