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    Career & Holiday Pay

    Hello

    I was recentley asked by my career about holiday pay. My career who has been with me for one year is paid via diret payments from my local council. What i would like to ask is even though they have not taken an holiday woulld they be entitled to holiday pay, paid by council as they are wanting to go away in the next couple of weeks.

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    I think you will need to clarify a few things.

    Is the carer supplied by and paid by the council?
    You say "paid via direct payments from my local council", is this a 'Direct Care Payment' arrangement?
    Is the carer working for an agency, or working alone?

    So:
    Is the carer getting paid by the council?
    Are you getting direct payment from the council and using it to pay an agency?
    Or are you getting the direct payment from the council and using it to pay the carer?

    If the carer is paid by the council then they are employed by the council, and this is not a direct care arrangement.
    (The carer should be getting a payslip from the council).

    If you are getting direct payment and using it to pay an agency for care then the agency is the carers employer, and so is responsible for their holiday pay, etc.
    (The carer should be getting a payslip from the agency).

    If you are getting the direct payment and using it to pay an individual then you are the carers employer - and so you are responsible for paying holiday pay, statuatory sick pay, National Insurance, Income Tax, etc. just like any other employer.
    (The carer should be getting a payslip from you).

    So you would be responsible for paying the carers statuatory holiday pay, out of your Direct Payment.
    Using direct payments to employ a carer

    The exception to this would be if the carer is working as self employed, usually this would mean they care for more than one person but are not working for an agency.

    If you are employing your carer as an individual then you realy need to check out your legal responsibilities as an employer.

    Your council should have made you aware of this when you were awarded direct payments, councils often have a dedicated team who can help with your responsibilities as the employer of your carer.

    You may find this interesting/helpful.
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    General information about Direct Payments for care.
    https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.u...aying-for-care
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    Thanks for reply nukecad.

    I had taken career direct, not agency and the council pays wages.

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    Last edited by Lu1; 12-07-2017 at 08:57 AM.

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    The quick answer, as above, is that whoever gives the employee their payslip is responsible for organising/paying their holiday pay.

    I'm not sure just what you mean by
    I had taken career direct, not agency and the council pays wages.
    OK, so it seems it's not an agency. (or is it? there is an agency called "Carers Direct Ltd").

    With Direct Payments the idea is the council pay the money to you, and then you use it to pay for your care.
    Sometimes the council will set up an account that you use for this purpose.
    So it may seem that the council are paying your carers wages, (because you don't see any actual money), but it is you that are paying them - and employing them.

    We can't see just what arrangement you have, your best course of action is to talk to your council about this to clear up just what your responsibilities are.

    Again as said above - by taking Direct Payment you may have become the employer of your carer, with all the responsibilities of an employer regarding paying tax, National Insurance, Statuatory Sick Pay, Maternity Pay, pension contributions, etc. etc.

    You need to contact your council and get this clarified.
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