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    My Serve Disabled Premium payments have stopped?

    I’ve logged onto my banking to find my serve disabled premiums have stopped being payed with this fortnights ESA. I still get my PIP rates and I’m in ESA support group. I still live alone and no one claims carers allowance for me.

    I thought it might hve something to do with UC but I haven’t been moved onto UC yet and haven’t had a letter about it.

    I got a letter back in April saying my rates would change from June 29 and my SDC premiums were deducted from that £130 a fortnight less but I didn’t know what it meant

    Just wondering if anyone knows what’s going on as I can’t contact the DWP now til Monday?
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    Not a clue what they are up to.

    That letter sounds a bit unusual though, was there no explanation of why they said things would change on June 29th? It's an odd date for a change.
    But it does look as if they have stopped the SDP from that date. (About a fortnight ago so this would be your first payment since then).

    Are you sure that someone hasn't started claiming CA for looking after you, without telling you?

    The only other things that I can think of is if you started getting some other income from somewhere; a private pension or something like that perhaps?
    Or maybe you had been left something (money or property) in a will so that you come above the £16K limit for IR benefits?
    But if any of those were the case then your EDP (the Disability Income Guarantee) would also have stopped.

    Weren't you moving house? Maybe the DWP think that you have moved in with someone else?

    Unfortunately unless there is some kind of explanation on that letter of why they said they were stopping SDP then you are going to have to wait until you can ring them.
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    Finally got an answer!

    Previous tenant (I moved into my property October last year) who claims benefits hasn’t changed their address with the DWP and hence the system thinks I don’t live alone. I get letters for this person but bin them.

    Will be sending in a copy of my social housing tenancy agreement and a statement from landlord saying this is a previous tentant if needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addison75 View Post
    Finally got an answer!

    Previous tenant (I moved into my property October last year) who claims benefits hasn’t changed their address with the DWP and hence the system thinks I don’t live alone. I get letters for this person but bin them.

    Will be sending in a copy of my social housing tenancy agreement and a statement from landlord saying this is a previous tentant if needed.
    You should not be binning the letters, they are not your property or addressed to you.

    Just put on them ……….. Not known at this address and put them back in the post box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addison75 View Post
    hence the system thinks I don’t live alone. I get letters for this person but bin them.
    I thought it might be something like that.

    As for binning the letters that's something that comes up frequently on a landlord/tenant forum I visit.

    It's the old tenants responsibility to have their mail redirected, and you are quite entitled to bin it if you want.
    You can even open it, (to find out who it's from), it's only an offence to interfere with mail in transit, once it's been delivered then that doesn't apply.

    TBH though 'No longer at this address' and drop it in a post box is probably best for the first couple of months, that way they will/may stop sending it.
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    The Postal services act 2000 latest amendments state

    84 Interfering with the mail: general.

    (1)A person commits an offence if, without reasonable excuse, he—

    (a)intentionally delays or opens a postal packet in the course of its transmission by post, or

    (b)intentionally opens a mail-bag.

    (2)Subsections (2) to (5) of section 83 apply to subsection (1) above as they apply to subsection (1) of that section.

    (3)A person commits an offence if, intending to act to a person’s detriment and without reasonable excuse, he opens a postal packet which he knows or reasonably suspects has been incorrectly delivered to him.

    (4)Subsections (2) and (3) of section 83 (so far as they relate to the opening of postal packets) apply to subsection (3) above as they apply to subsection (1) of that section.

    (5)A person who commits an offence under subsection (1) or (3) shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to both.

    Link https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga...-with-the-mail

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    The two things to note there are;

    In (1)(a) "..in the course of it's transmission by post...", once it's been delivered it's no longer in transmission.
    (1)(a) and (b) are mainly aimed at Post Office employees.

    In (3) "...if, intending to act to a person’s detriment and without reasonable excuse...." so if you are not intending to act to the intended recipients' detriment it's OK to open incorrectly delivered mail. (eg. to see who sent it).
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    (4)Subsections (2) and (3) of section 83 (so far as they relate to the opening of postal packets) apply to subsection (3) above as they apply to subsection (1) of that section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nukecad View Post
    The two things to note there are;

    In (1)(a) "..in the course of it's transmission by post...", once it's been delivered it's no longer in transmission.
    (1)(a) and (b) are mainly aimed at Post Office employees.

    In (3) "...if, intending to act to a person’s detriment and without reasonable excuse...." so if you are not intending to act to the intended recipients' detriment it's OK to open incorrectly delivered mail. (eg. to see who sent it).
    Section 83 of the legislation is regarding postal staff I referred to section 84 general

    Mail should be marked “returned to sender”, it then goes to Belfast to be opened under the rules/regs of section 83 and is then sent back to original sender officially.
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    As I said above we have been into this in detail on the landlords forum.

    My above comments about:
    "..in the course of it's transmission by post..."
    and
    "...if, intending to act to a person’s detriment and without reasonable excuse...."
    Still stand.

    There is nothing in the legislation that says that you cannot open someone elses mail once it has been delivered to your address, only that you can't do it with malicious intent. ("to a person’s detriment and without reasonable excuse").

    What the PO say you should do and what the law says are two different things.
    It's a bit like the DWP and Permitted Work; there is nothing in ESA legislation that says you have to get their permission, or even tell them. (The legislation defines it as 'Exempt Work' and makes no mention of getting permission to do it).
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