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    mandated to the Work and Health Programme,

    hi.
    new this forum im a 61 year old male with health problems,im on universal credit and recently just come off 9 months sick, as i had a massive pulmonary embolism which nearly killed me, i also have other health problems, i have just been to the job centre, my adviser is over the moon that i am now fit for work again. and is going to send me to the Work and Health Programme, as any one been on this course and know what its about, i just want to retire,but have just over 4 more years left to retire, but shes adamant she whe will get me in to work,even though im only looking for 16 hours a week due to my health problems,

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    To start with the Health and Work Programme is not mandatory unless you have been a 'long-term jobseeker' for over 24 months.

    With UC that means that you must be in the 'All work-related Requirements' group, but the 24 months does include any time that you spent on JSA before claiming UC.

    For everyone else it is entirely voluntary to start the W&H programme - the work coach can ask, you can refuse.
    But be careful, I think that like the old Work Programme then once you have volunteered to go on it then you can't come off until the end.

    If they ask me I'll just say 'thanks but no thanks'.
    You could do the same. (Unless you have been a jobseeker for over 24 months that is).

    https://www.gov.uk/work-health-programme

    I would have though that with a health condition that you should be in either the 'No work-related requirements', 'Work focuse interview' or 'work preparation' group.
    Have you had a Work Capability Assessment?

    I haven't seen any reports from W&H participants yet. Apart from DWP bull*** advertising.

    But if it's anything like the old Work Programme (which I did for 2 years, there is a long thread on here about it) then that was pretty useless, especially if you had a health condition.

    It's just a way of getting you (mostly) off the Jobcentres hands for a couple of years, and giving the government a chance to say that they are 'helping the disabled'.
    You've probably noticed that they are having a big push on 'disability and working' at the moment, adverts all over the place.
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    yes ive been unemployed several years. just wandered if its a weekly visit to the Health and Work Programme,or more regular attendance,
    i was also on the Work Programme,a few years ago and completed my two years, without finding employment.

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    From what I can see the providers have a lot more leeway with WHP than they did with the WP.

    They can set up their own local schemes and training/work experience within pretty broad guidlines.

    I think you would need to find which organisation is running it in your area an seeing what you can find on their website.
    Here's a couple of them:
    https://www.shaw-trust.org.uk/en-GB/...alth-Programme
    https://www.pluss.org.uk/services/work-health-programme
    https://www.ingeus.com/what-working-...alth-programme

    PS. One of the things I checked out very early on was that if you had done the Work Programme once then by law they couldn't send you on it a second time.
    Unfortunately no such restriction applies with the Health and Work Programme and they can send you on it even if you have previously done the WP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nukecad View Post
    From what I can see the providers have a lot more leeway with WHP than they did with the WP.

    They can set up their own local schemes and training/work experience within pretty broad guidlines.

    I think you would need to find which organisation is running it in your area an seeing what you can find on their website.
    Here's a couple of them:
    https://www.shaw-trust.org.uk/en-GB/...alth-Programme
    https://www.pluss.org.uk/services/work-health-programme
    https://www.ingeus.com/what-working-...alth-programme

    PS. One of the things I checked out very early on was that if you had done the Work Programme once then by law they couldn't send you on it a second time.
    Unfortunately no such restriction applies with the Health and Work Programme and they can send you on it even if you have previously done the WP.
    thanks for the links. looks like they will be on m back until i retire,

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