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    Hi

    Form done let you know what they come back to me with, included my Pip scores and found my GP letter supporting me to resign my job because of the accidents so included that and my audiogram. I will let you know outcome etc and if July go in as normal letter confirmed ESA from 20 June so I guess if my sign on normally on a Friday - i.e. Fri 3rd July; I should get full amount on 8 July, and will keep getting the fit notes in September till decision made etc least done form and a specialist helped me do it. Do you think with my Pip, as you said should have been on this to begin with, they should use sense and do ongoing like Pip or would ESA have a set period if placed in support group.
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    So JSA finished on the 19th, ESA started on the 20th, that's a seamless transfer and as it should have been.

    It's just a question of the waiting days, but as said above it is a 'linked' (and seamless) claim so those waiting days shouldn't apply.

    ESA awards are always ongoing, they don't have a set end date like PIP and can only be ended if you are found fit-for-work at a review.

    However in your case because of your savings then you only qualify for Contribution Based 'New Style' ESA - and that can only be paid for 12 months unless you are allocated to the Support Group (LCWRA).

    If you are awarded the Work Related Activities Group (also called WRAG or LCW) then after 12 months the entitlement to be paid New Style ESA stops.
    You could normally then carry the LCW status into Universal Credit, but your savings prevent you from being paid UC.

    So unless you are awarded Support Group/LCWRA then your entitlement to ESA will end 12 months after you first claimed CB JSA.

    (Just for clarity your PIP is not affected by any of this, and will continue until the next PIP review).
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    Thank you again. I assume i would only go back to the Job Centre when I know for sure which group I am in is this correct? or do I need to go from 3 July when they are open again - it's all new to me sorry. I will keep getting the fit notes.

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    Nobody is sure just what is happening with the Jobcentres.

    The jobcentre staff themselves say it's too early to open and no (or not enough) protective measures are in place.
    85% of the union members surveyed said they would not feel safe if jobcentres were reopened.
    In our response to our recent members survey:

    85% said they will not feel safe if front facing activity is increased
    59% feel that they will be in serious and imminent danger
    73% would be prepared to refuse to attend their workplace

    In the same survey -

    65% said their Jobcentre does not have enough space for social distancing.
    93% said Jobcentres need screens.
    87% said more sanitiser equipment was needed.
    85% said Personal Protective Equipment is needed.

    Unsafe extension of jobcentre services opposed in parliament

    In a debate in parliament yesterday the Labour party shadow work and pensions secretary, Jonathan Reynolds said the decision was "incomprehensible" and that Jobcentres were "lacking guidance" on how to reopen safely.
    https://www.pcs.org.uk/department-fo...ntre-services-

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    Gosh quite a big difference, thanks clarifying that. I can see £148.70 ESA pending to go in on 3 July I thought be 8 July because my sign on would normally be a Friday, oh well

    So as two weeks would you expect £148.70

    3 July
    17 July
    31 July

    and so on till know which group placed in?

    Thanks
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    Forget sign on dates, you are on NS ESA now so you don't sign on, just keep sending fit notes as required.
    They have waived the waiting days, as they should have, so that's fine.

    Your NS ESA started on Sat 20th June so your first fortnightly payment of £148.70 is due after 14 days which is Fri 3 July, and then £148.70 every second Friday after that.
    Payments will continue until your 12 months entitlement to CB benefit is up. (6th March 2021), or until you have a decision following a Work Capability Assessment, whichever is earlier.

    What happens next.
    Keep sending new fit notes as required.
    As you know you will have a Work Capability Assessment which could have one of 3 possible awards (and four or five possible outcomes depending on when the decision is made):

    1. If following an assessment decision you are found fit-for-work the ESA payments will stop. (If that happens before 6th September then you could reclaim NS JSA until 6th September).
    2. If following an assessment decision you are awarded Work Related Activities Group (WRAG) (also called Limited Capability for Work or LCW) then ESA payments will continue but will stop at the 12 months (6 Mar 2021).
    3. If following an assessment decision you are awarded Support Group (also called Limited Capability for Work and Work Related Activity or LCWRA) before the 12 months are up then ESA payments will increase* and continue fortnightly after that until you have a reassessment in a year or two.
    4. If it takes longer for an assessment decision to be made and you are awarded Support Group after ESA payments have stopped at 12 months then they will start again (increased*) and you will be backpaid to when they stopped.

    * The increase for Support Group starts at week 14 of an ESA claim.
    If you are assessed before week 14 then you have to wait until week 14 for the increase, if its taken longer than 14 weeks to assess then the increase will be backdated to the start of week 14.
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