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    P.i.p help

    Hello , I am looking for advice , I was in receipt of hight rate mobility , my renewal came in November that year , citizens advise filled my form in I had a face to face at home in March this year they took my high rate mobility of me . The Assessor said there was nothing wrong with me and I showed good Eye coordination and I did everything that was asked of me , everything she put about me was lies , she even said I offered her a cup of tea and I was laughing , I wasn’t because 4 Months before I lost my mum . I did a mandatory reconsiderations ,the decision was the same . I suffer from panic and anxiety and acrophobia, I can not go out on my own I have to have someone with me at all times , I feel that I have been judged wrong just because I looked ok and I wasn’t rocking and had good eye contact , I’m scared to do appeals but is it the right thing to do any help would be appreciated thank you

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    Can you get your gp to write a letter for you?

    Pip isn't based on the name of your condition (supposedly- assessor hadn't heard of mine, therefore obviously not disabling) but how it effects you.

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    Hello EK1967

    An appeal is definitely the way to go.

    You'll find a great many of us on this forum have gone to appeal after not being awarded any PIP after an assessment, then no change at the Mandatory Reconsideration.

    Yes it can seem scary, in reality it's not as scary as many of us feared.

    I believe it's currently around 70% of people receive a PIP award after an appeal, having been refused until then.

    Yes 70%!

    I'm sure if you read through some threads on this site you'll find lots of info about the process. Don't delay though, get your appeal in ASAP.

    Good luck.

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    Definitely appeal. You've already done all the hard work with the initial claim and subsequent Mandatory Reconsideration.

    I would advise getting advice and support from a suitable organisation such as Benefits & Work or Fightback. No disrespect to CAB but they have very broad yet very limited knowledge. They don't have the expertise to maximise your chances of success. Specialised organisations will boost your chances significantly and can even represent you at a tribunal.

    Get the appeal in ASAP, it could be a long wait.

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    Hello thank you all for your comments . I went to my doctor for a letter he won’t do one decause of the cronivirus, he told me to go back after . It’s just frustrating the a person can see you for 1/2 hour and decide that there is noithing wrong with you , I also have other conditions that I had consultants letters about but none of that was taken in to account either . I have under active thyroid , fibromyalgia , osteoporosis , bulging dice at l4 /l5 , menier disease plus panic and anxiety . I also don’t know if this had a factor in it my daughter had to have accessment in December and we both had the same assessor .

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    As the others have already said - nobody who knows the DWP expects anything to change at Mandatory Reconsideration. It can happen but it's pretty rare.

    So you expect to have to take it to tribunal where around 70% of PIP appeals get the DWPs decision sucessfully overturned.

    You can appeal on your own without any help and be sucessful, but you are much better to get a local welfare/benefits advisor to help you.
    They help with many appeals and so know what is best to concentrate on and how best to put your particular case across.

    You can find local advisors local to you by putting your postcode in here: https://advicelocal.uk/find-an-adviser
    I don't know everything. - But I'm good at searching for, and finding, stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nukecad View Post
    As the others have already said - nobody who knows the DWP expects anything to change at Mandatory Reconsideration. It can happen but it's pretty rare.
    I recently read in the gov.uk reporting that PIP MRs had a change of award rate of 57% in April 2020, and ESA had a change of award rate of 82% in the same month.

    Definitely an incentive for people to send in a MR, and later a tribunal if necessary.

    Ek1967 - Whilst a doctors letter would have been helpful, as is all the backing evidence, I've been told so many times that the most important element of your claim is your version of events of how you are affected by your disabilities / conditions. 10 people could all have the exact same medical condition but it can affect them all very differently, you are unique so you must explain your personal situation.

    With my PIP form, I sent only one consultant letter showing a diagnosis of one condition. But I filled all the revenant boxes on the form with my explanations, as well as the additional detail box and 6 additional sheets of A4, and there were actually only several descriptors that were applicable. It was sufficient to be awarded PIP.

    Definitely get assistance from your local experts before a tribunal. Good luck!

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    I used a diary for my mandatory reconsideration. This got me from 4 points on care to 11 and 0 on mobility to 12.

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    Thank you all for your advice , I’ve been in touch with citizens advice and they are going to help me with my appeal , I don’t think it would of mattered what I said to the assessor , she made her mind up without my evidence and seeing me . I had a letter from a health care worker at the hospital starting how I struggle with mental health , and my other condition plus my doctors letter but it wasn’t enough , when the report comes back and you read it , it’s like it’s about some one else , because I which I could do the things she said I could .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ek1967 View Post
    I’ve been in touch with citizens advice and they are going to help me with my appeal
    I would really recommend you take the advice of other people on here - Citizens Advice have such limited knowledge on the benefits system and its intricacies, unless they have benefits specialists. A tribunal is your last chance without starting the claim all over again so you really need to get help from a specialised organisation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ek1967 View Post
    I had a letter from a health care worker at the hospital starting how I struggle with mental health
    To be blunt, this is worth nothing. PIP is all about how your disability effects you. Thousands of people have mental health issues or a hundred other conditions and don't need to claim anything. As you do feel you need help, it's absolutely key that you explain why.

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