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    What does this mean 'Review'

    Apologies gives before hand I have 2 threads ongoing. I received my PIP Medical report today ( I haven't had a decision yet from DWP?) I cannot believe the contents and how they have missed end loads of info out shock was very relevant but I am concerned with regards to the following;

    Based on the claimants likely future circumstances, it would be appropriate to review the claim in 3 months

    It is strongly suggested that a review is arranged with all FME from her GP and a consultant in relation to the severity of her reported problems and restriction, although the problems are common for severe osteoarthritis, her current treatment options are not consistent her current reported level of restrictions.

    Please does anyone know what this means? This is a change of circumstances. I wouldn't be able to get through this without the help of all the lovely people on this forum thanks in advance min

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    I'm no expert on this so I'm sure someone else who is will come along and answer.

    What i can say is that if I had received that letter - which means to me looked at again in 3 months and I would be thinking they are wanting to check out my claims in more detail and with consultations with GP, consultants and any other professionals who are involved with my condition/s.
    Sea Queen

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    It looks like the Examiner may think you've over egged the pudding a bit from what they've said here:
    "her current treatment options are not consistent her current reported level of restrictions."

    If you should hear from them about reviewing your claim in 3 months, you may want to consider contacting a trained Welfare Worker about it. Though you have to wait to see what the Decision Maker comes up with first.

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    FME is "further medical evidence".

    It appears that the assessor feels that your current treatment is only appropriate for a less severe form of osteoarthritis than would cause the functional restrictions you claim. In other words, they feel your account of how restricted you are and the story told by the treatment you are on do not match. Accordingly, they're asking for an early review with reports from your GP and consultant to delve deeper into the stage of your arthritis, the treatment you are on, and how severely you are restricted.


    The recommended review after three months also means that the assessor believes your condition is changing rapidly.

    As a review is being suggested after three months, it is unlikely any deterioration identified in this assessment report will result in an increase in your PIP award, as PIP can only be awarded in relation to restrictions that are likely to exist for at least 12 months. However, any improvement (real or not) that is identified by this report could result in a decrease of your PIP award - possibly to nothing.

    If the new decision awards you any PIP, I would expect a short award to force an early review.


    In another thread, you wrote:

    Quote Originally Posted by Minnirodg View Post
    There are quite a few things I don't agree with in terms of he marked me as being able to stand then move using an aid or appliance more than 20 metres but no more than 50. I attended in a wheelchair and I held my stick , I took my stick with me incase I was asked to walk. I clearly stated that I can only walk with a stick 10 meters rest then a further 8 meters but could not repeat the procedure safely and not in pain at no point was i asked to walk but I did stand holding onto my chair and with my stick.
    Based on what you shared about your existing award in a previous thread, it seems likely that you will again be awarded the descriptor "can stand and then move using an aid or appliance more than 20 metres but no more than 50 metres", giving you 10 points for Mobility.


    Quote Originally Posted by Minnirodg View Post
    As this was a change of circumstances I have compared the previous report with this recent one and you can clearly see the changes alone with the knee flexing going from 30% to 50% also the rest of my limbs , flexing, rotation and movements drastically reduced but apparently in the report he has said I was noted flexing to my ears I can wash my upper body and marked me down this is not true and my daughter has to wash me all over and because I now work 16 hrs (keeps me sane) been cut from 35 hrs as of my disabilities he keeps using this throughout the report as being able
    If the knee flexion is reported as 50% full range (or 50 degrees) on the most recent report but 30% full range (or 30 degrees) on the older report, that is an increase.


    I'm unclear what effect this report might have on your Daily Living component, though it could well reduce the points you scored for "washing and bathing" if you previously were awarded 4 points for "needs assistance to be able to wash their body between the shoulders and waist".

    The underlying problem you have here is that PIP is assessed on the basis of what limitations appear more likely than exist as a result of your condition, not the help you actually have. This assessor seems to believe that your arthritis is not severe enough to restrict you as much as you claim, and has scored you based on their assessment of the severity of your arthritis.


    Quote Originally Posted by Minnirodg View Post
    I am absolutely upset and fuming do you think I should contact DWP on Monday as I say I havnt had the results bk yet from DWP thanks min much appreciated
    There is little point challenging things at this stage. The reason that DWP usually refuse to send out the assessment report is that there is no mechanism to challenge the assessment report until a decision has been made based on it.

    At this stage, all you can do is allow the report to go forward to a decision, then request reconsideration of that decision if you are not happy with it.


    Whenever a further look is taken at your PIP entitlement (whether that be by reconsideration of the decision you are waiting for, a future review of any award you get or a new application if you lose PIP entirely), you are strongly recommended to supply medical evidence addressing the severity of your arthritis and the reasons for the treatment approach that you are following. Ideally this would be a letter from your consultant, which might be a specially written letter but could just be a letter from your consultant to your GP that covers these areas.
    Last edited by Flymo; 10-04-2014 at 04:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sea queen View Post
    I'm no expert on this so I'm sure someone else who is will come along and answer.

    What i can say is that if I had received that letter - which means to me looked at again in 3 months and I would be thinking they are wanting to check out my claims in more detail and with consultations with GP, consultants and any other professionals who are involved with my condition/s.
    Thankyou for your time sea queen much appreciated regards min

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jard View Post
    It looks like the Examiner may think you've over egged the pudding a bit from what they've said here:
    "her current treatment options are not consistent her current reported level of restrictions."

    If you should hear from them about reviewing your claim in 3 months, you may want to consider contacting a trained Welfare Worker about it. Though you have to wait to see what the Decision Maker comes up with first.
    Thanks Jard I do appreciate you coming back to me and i do Understand what you are saying thats how i felt when i read the report. i am a very honest oerson and have delayed applying for PIP and previously DLA. The assessor told me there and then basically he was not happy with my doctor and he needed speaking to with regards to how he as dealt with my illness. He said he should be doing a lot more for me. My doctor is lovely and always fits me in for appointments no problem I am not to know what medication is best for me and I think that's why he may have done this after getting feedback from yourselves Thankyou Jard regards min

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flymo View Post
    FME is "further medical evidence".

    It appears that the assessor feels that your current treatment is only appropriate for a less severe form of osteoarthritis than would cause the functional restrictions you claim. In other words, they feel your account of how restricted you are and the story told by the treatment you are on do not match. Accordingly, they're asking for an early review with reports from your GP and consultant to delve deeper into the stage of your arthritis, the treatment you are on, and how severely you are restricted.


    The recommended review after three months also means that the assessor believes your condition is changing rapidly.

    As a review is being suggested after three months, it is unlikely any deterioration identified in this assessment report will result in an increase in your PIP award, as PIP can only be awarded in relation to restrictions that are likely to exist for at least 12 months. However, any improvement (real or not) that is identified by this report could result in a decrease of your PIP award - possibly to nothing.

    If the new decision awards you any PIP, I would expect a short award to force an early review.


    In another thread, you wrote:



    Based on what you shared about your existing award in a previous thread, it seems likely that you will again be awarded the descriptor "can stand and then move using an aid or appliance more than 20 metres but no more than 50 metres", giving you 10 points for Mobility.




    If the knee flexion is reported as 50% full range (or 50 degrees) on the most recent report but 30% full range (or 30 degrees) on the older report, that is an increase.


    I'm unclear what effect this report might have on your Daily Living component, though it could well reduce the points you scored for "washing and bathing" if you previously were awarded 4 points for "needs assistance to be able to wash their body between the shoulders and waist".

    The underlying problem you have here is that PIP is assessed on the basis of what limitations appear more likely than exist as a result of your condition, not the help you actually have. This assessor seems to believe that your arthritis is not severe enough to restrict you as much as you claim, and has scored you based on their assessment of the severity of your arthritis.




    There is little point challenging things at this stage. The reason that DWP usually refuse to send out the assessment report is that there is no mechanism to challenge the assessment report until a decision has been made based on it.

    At this stage, all you can do is allow the report to go forward to a decision, then request reconsideration of that decision if you are not happy with it.


    Whenever a further look is taken at your PIP entitlement (whether that be by reconsideration of the decision you are waiting for, a future review of any award you get or a new application if you lose PIP entirely), you are strongly recommended to supply medical evidence addressing the severity of your arthritis and the reasons for the treatment approach that you are following. Ideally this would be a letter from your consultant, which might be a specially written letter but could just be a letter from your consultant to your GP that covers these areas.
    Thankyou for your time to reply Flymo. As I mentioned in an earlier thread a few weeks ago the assesor was not happy with the medication my doctor had prescribed me as I mentioned I was unaware really what medication I should be on and which professionals i should be seeing. My illness has deterioated since my original claim and this can be clearly seen in this recent report. Since my assesment I have been back to see the doctor and he has now referred me to another physio and knee specialist so I do not know as to wether or not maybe the assesor did contact him I cannot confirm this. I am quite a shy quiet person and afraid to ask questions face to face that is why this forum is a great help to me as I feel a lot more confident being able to ask question on here a bit sad maybe but I cannot thank you guys enough thanks min

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    Not sad at all we are so lucky to have people on here who can answer our questions min
    Sea Queen

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    Quote Originally Posted by sea queen View Post
    Not sad at all we are so lucky to have people on here who can answer our questions min
    Your right sea queen I think I used sad in the wrong context I just wish I was as confident speaking to people face to face as I am on here. This forum with these lovely people on board has helped me tremendously I have even mentioned it to my doctor it's as if I'm a totally different person when I'm asking questions on here it makes feel so much better! It must be so great to have so much knowledge as the much caring people who help on this forum I cannot thank them enough I clouding yourself x

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    @minirodg why dont you try with your GP what you do here, write your questions down before you go and give it to gp or even hand it in to reception a couple of days before your appointment that way gp will maybe have answers for ready for you.

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